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    Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 23:49
Hello Gents,

Still working on research for my novel and I've hit two dead ends that I hope you Gentlemen can help me with.

1) The 7th Battalion, Royal Dublin Fusiliers landed at Suvla Bay on August 7th, 1915. Before leaving the camp at Basingstoke, they were issued khaki drill and Wolseley Pattern cork sun-helmets. This is not surprising based on the time of year.

On the other hand, the 1st Battalion landed on V Beach on April 25th, obviously much earlier in the season in terms of the Mediterranean weather, which brings me to my first question.

I would assume that the 1st Battalion was wearing the woolen 1902 Pattern Service Dress uniforms with the other ranks P1902 Service Cap. Can anyone please confirm this assumption? Thank you!

2) My second question is in regards to the landing of the 1st Battalion DUBs on V Beach on the 25th. According to several accounts, one of the 1st DUBs companies landed in the SS River Clyde while the rest of the Battalion landed in boats. Can anyone please confirm which company or companies landed in the SS River Clyde?

Thank you one and all for your help with my questions. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.

Warmest regards,

John
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Hi John,

1. I believe 1 Bn RDF handed their tropical kit in when they arrived in the UK. There are some great photos of them and the Munsters in the UK wearing the Wolsely helmets.

2. W Coy 1 RDF were located in No 1 hold (Lower Deck) on the River Clyde, along with W Coy RMF.

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Hello Mal,

Thank you very much for your help with this. The info you have so kindly provided is exactly what I was looking for. There are similar photos of the 7th taken at Basingstoke in their khaki drill and Wolesly helmets as well.

I have a variety of sources as references for my novel , particularly for the landing of the 7th Battalion at Suvla Bay, in particular.....

"The pals at Suvla Bay: being the record of "D" company of the 7th Royal Dublin fusiliers"

by Henry Hanna

....which is available in paperback through Amazon. The book was written and published during the war and reads like a diary. I have not been able to find a similar source for the 1st Battalion, hence the questions regarding the uniforms they were wearing when they boarded the HMTS Alaunia in Avonmouth as well as when they landed at V Beach.

One last question based on your info regarding W Coy 1 RDF being on the lower deck, do you know whether or not they exited the SS River Clyde during the initial landing, or were they among the troops that noting the slaughter, opted to wait until nightfall to leave the ship?

Thanks again for your help!

Warmest regards,

John
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Hi John,

I will get back to you over the weekend with as much info as I can pull together for you.

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Thank you Mal!

Your input has been extremely helpful and is greatly appreciated.

Warmest regards,

John
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OOPS!

Would you believe one more "one last question" PLEASE! Sorry about this Mal.

You are a wealth of information and I'll add you to my acknowledgment list in the book.

Do you happen to know whether Lt-Colonel R.A. Rooth, the 1st Battalion commander who was killed on V Beach that day, landed in one of the boats or on the SS River Clyde?

I'm assuming that he landed in one of the boats since the majority of his command landed in boats, but would like to be certain if possible.

Thanks again for your help!

Warmest regards,

John

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John apologies for the delayed response.

Lt. Col. Rooth was indeed in the boats. It was reported that "He was killed at the water's edge".
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Hello Mr. Sheehan, I hope this information is not too late and if so, that you have already found it.  If you have available a copy of Neill's Blue Caps pages 32 and 33 give an account of the exiting of the ship by "W" company.
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